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Morane-Saulnier M.S.317

Morane-Saulnier M.S.317

Morane-Saulnier M.S.317

The Morane-Saulnier M.S.317 was a post Second World War designation given to forty M.S.315 primary trainers that were given new engines in the 1960s. The parasol wing M.S.315 was produced in large numbers before the Second World War, and a number of aircraft survived the conflict. By the start of the 1960s a number of these aircraft were being used as civil glider tugs. Between 1960 and 1962 forty of these aircraft were re-engined with war-surplus 220hp Continental W-670K radial engines, and the M.S.317 designation.


Morane-Saulnier M.S.315

Developed from the M.S.300 primary trainer prototype of 1930, and its M.S.301 and M.S.302 variants, the Morane-Saulnier M.S.315 flew for the first time in October 1932. Of typically robust parasol high-wing configuration, it was of mixed construction with divided main landing gear. Four prototypes were followed by 346 series aircraft, 33 of them built post-war. In addition, five higher-powered M.S.315/2 aircraft were built for civil use, plus a single M.S.316 with a Regnier inverted-vee engine. The type became the workhorse of the French Armee de I'Air and served also with the Aeronavale and various civil flying schools. It was a favourite at many pre-war airshows flown by such notables as Thoret, Fleurquin and Detroyat. Between 1960 and 1962, 40 M.S.315s then in use as civil glider tugs were re-engined with the 164kW war-surplus Continental W-670K radial, being redesignated M.S.317.

I am curious that the MS 230 is not mentioned though over 1,000 were made from 1930 onwards. Is there a reason for this omission in your coverage of MS aircraft?


Morane-Saulnier BB

From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Type BB, Type BH
RFC Morane-Saulnier BB
Role Observation aircraft
National origin France
Manufacturer Morane-Saulnier
First flight 1915
Status retired
Primary user Royal Flying Corps
Number built 107

The Morane-Saulnier BB was a military observation aircraft produced in France during World War I for use by Britain's Royal Flying Corps. Ώ] ΐ] It was a conventional single-bay biplane design with seating for the pilot and observer in tandem, open cockpits. The original order called for 150 aircraft powered by 110-hp Le Rhône 9J rotary engines, but shortages meant that most of the 94 aircraft eventually built were delivered with 80 hp Le Rhône 9C rotaries instead. ΐ] A water-cooled Hispano-Suiza 8A engine was trialled as an alternative in the Type BH, but this remained experimental only. Ώ] A production licence was sold to the Spanish company Compañía Española de Construcciones Aeronáuticas (CECA), which built twelve fitted with Hispano-Suiza engines in 1916.


Morane-Saulnier MoS-50

Morane-Saulnier MoS-50 (also MS.50) was a French parasol configuration trainer aircraft built in 1924. The twin-seat aircraft was of wooden construction and was one of the last aircraft to have a rotary engine, a 97 kW (130 hp) Clerget 9B.

MoS-50
Morane-Saulnier MS 50C at Aviation Museum of Central Finland
Role Trainer aircraft
Manufacturer Morane-Saulnier
Introduction 1924
Retired 1930s
Primary users French Air Force
Finnish Air Force
Turkish Air Force

In 1925 six MS.50Cs were sold to Finland, where they were used as trainers until 1932. It was very popular in service. Five aircraft of the modified MS.53 type were sold to Turkey.


Morane-Saulnier M.S.317 - History

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A Winter of Aviation Opportunities

In this 58th edition of Aerodrome, we are attempting to cast off the winter blues and take a look at how the next few months can bring plenty of interesting opportunities for the aviation enthusiast. Although the 2016 Airshow season is now consigned to history, there really is no need to stress about the length of time before our next display event but instead focus on a little creative thinking and trying something a little different. As long as we keep wrapped up and a keen eye on the weather forecast, the winter months can yield plenty of interesting opportunities and may even produce some of your most memorable aviation images of the year. If nothing else, it will allow you to keep honing your photographic skills and prepare you for the rigors of the 2017 Airshow season – it may also potentially introduce you to some extremely enjoyable aviation opportunities that can be enjoyed all year round.

Traditionally, the dark nights of the winter months are a time when aviation enthusiasts with an interest in photography try to get a little more organised and ignore the fact that the coming Airshow season seems uncomfortably far away. Storing and arranging the thousands of images taken during the busy summer months is both time consuming and incredibly important, especially as most of us are now working with digital media. Protecting all this work and ensuring they are correctly categorised and backed-up will save hours of aimless hard drive trawling in the years to come and ensure that none of your valuable images are lost during the backing up process. You can be sure that many years from now, you will be looking for a particular image of a certain aircraft that you know you have somewhere, but after spending an hour sifting through thousands of images, you are no closer to finding – I am afraid I have experienced this many times in the past and really must try to practice what I preach. The winter months are always the time when most aviation photographers take the opportunity to give their camera equipment a good clean and usually start to think about any upgrades, or additions to their set up, in preparation for the new Airshow season. We will include a feature on aviation photography in a future edition of Aerodrome, where we will look at the types of camera currently available and the best settings for specific situations.

As well as using the coming months to organise and prepare, don’t forget about the many aviation related opportunities still out there just waiting to be discovered, many of which you may not have had the opportunity to visit during the busy summer months.

National Aviation Museums

There are many rare aeroplanes to be discovered in Britain’s museums

Enthusiasts in the UK are extremely fortunate to have a large number of aviation museums to visit, with some of the finest collections of aircraft in the world waiting to be discovered. As we all live busy lives, it can sometimes be surprising how long it has been since our previous visit and you can be sure that there will be plenty of interesting pictures to take, as collections are regularly refreshed and reorganised. Although the lighting and restricted space in many museums can make photography challenging, there are still plenty of great images waiting to be taken in our fantastic museums and it is an opportunity to take all the family for an interesting day out, no matter what the weather outside. Bringing much needed revenue and increased footfall to our museums, these winter visits can help to ensure the future of these venues and the historic aviation artefacts they are the custodians of.

Preparations for the RAF Centenary in 2018 will see a number of aircraft on the move

A current development that will certainly be of interest to aviation enthusiasts and could possibly yield some unique photographic opportunities over the coming months, are the preparations for the RAF Centenary at the RAF Museum Hendon. As this work has already begun, a number of aircraft more readily associated with the London site have been dismantled and will be heading for display at the Cosford site. These will include the Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I, which has strong links to the Midlands area, the Gloster Gladiator and the rare Junkers Ju 88R-1, which will all be put on display at Cosford and will be a big draw for enthusiasts in this part of the world. For the photography minded aviation enthusiast, both the RAF Museum sites at Hendon and Cosford will be extremely interesting places to visit, in the run up to the RAF Centenary commemorations.

Regional Aviation Museums

With quite a number of these such aviation venues dotted around the country, it is not difficult to find one that you have not previously visited, especially if you are prepared to travel. A little prior research is essential before embarking on such a trip, as some of the smaller museums may actually close during the winter months or have restrictions on their opening times. Most of us will probably be familiar with the museums situated close to where we live, but there are certainly opportunities to discover something new if we look a little further afield and this will again bring much needed revenue to these fantastic museums, a great many of which will be completely run by volunteer staff and in desperate need of any income they can generate.

The magnificent Handley Page Hastings at Newark Air Museum

Some of the larger and more famous museums, such as the ones at Newark and Elvington will have an impressive selection of well maintained aircraft on display both in the open air and within their hangar buildings and can also boast a restaurant and gift shop to further enhance your visit. They may also host a number of special events throughout the year, so it is always worthwhile checking their website and signing up for their information newsletters. Again, it is always enjoyable to make an annual visit to your local, or preferred aviation museum and is another opportunity to spend some quality time with the family, trying to explain our enduring fascination with these magnificent machines.

Organised Photographic Events

Special photography events can produce some unique images

Seemingly growing in popularity over recent years, some museums now run special photographic events at their site, either run by some of their own volunteers, or involving one of the companies specifically established to arrange these events. Using the aircraft as their subject matter, these events may take place at specific times of the day to achieve particular photographic results, such as a dawn photoshoot for a WWI aircraft, or a nightshoot featuring a WWII Bomber Command aircraft. These events may also employ the use of re-enactor groups and can yield some stunning images that are really evocative and completely different to the usual museum pictures of the subject aircraft.

Re-enactors help to give this shot something of a wartime atmosphere

If nothing else, these events show the aviation photographer that there are plenty of interesting, if slightly obscure opportunities out there and it is just a case of finding them. It is also great to spend time with fellow enthusiasts and photographers, who will usually be more than happy to help you to set up your camera for the best results and engage in some stimulating aviation conversation – or tell you to go and get the teas in.

Military Airfields

Although many enthusiasts will lament the closure of a great many military airfields over the past thirty years and the lack of aviation diversity at the ones we have left, there is still the possibility of having an extremely enjoyable day wandering around the vicinity of an active airfield. Obviously conscious of the fact that these are military sites and you have to be both sensible and respectful of the location, you will usually find a number of fellow enthusiasts doing the same thing as you in trying to grab pictures of our latest military aircraft. Again, many of these airfields will benefit from enthusiast websites, which will both inform you about the best photographic locations around the base and make you aware of any particular hazards, or restrictions you will need to avoid. As many of these airfields are surrounded by farmers’ fields, it is important that you try to get your pictures without incurring his wrath and spoiling it for your fellow enthusiasts.

The 2016 Typhoon display pilot gets in some practice at Coningsby earlier this year

Britain’s military bases are usually active all year round, but unless you are in the know, it can be a little hit and miss with regard to how busy the airfield will be on the day of your visit. For most of us, this is part of the appeal of such a trip, hoping that you will get lucky with either an exceptionally busy day for movements, or an unusual aircraft making an appearance. If you require more certainty than this, joining one of the enthusiast websites or social media sites will usually yield the information you are looking for and can be extremely useful in avoiding a wasted journey. Although flying activity can never usually be guaranteed, most local enthusiasts will tell you to avoid Friday afternoon, as this is usually a particularly quiet time from a flight operations perspective.

There is always the chance of catching a Spitfire or two at Coningsby

At bases such as RAF Coningsby, which is one of the UK’s most active airfields and home to both RAF Typhoon Squadrons and the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, an early Spring visit can often see the home based aircraft practicing for their Airshow display routines and working up to their Public Display Authorisation flights. As well as the usual activities taking place at the airfield, these occasions can usually provide plenty of opportunities to hone your photographic skills and come away with some particularly impressive images.

Local General Aviation Airfields

A Piper PA-28 Cherokee comes in to land at Manchester Barton

There is something really enjoyable about spending a few hours relaxing at your local general aviation airfield, taking in the sights and sounds of aircraft and the people indulging in the experience of flying. As people can be extremely passionate about their local aerodrome, many airfields can count on healthy volunteer support and are kept in extremely good order, boasting more than adequate facilities for a pleasant few hours visit. With private pilots taking their aircraft for a quick flight, or student pilots embarking on their latest lesson, there are usually quite a number of aircraft movements to be viewed and always the chance of seeing an unusual visitor or two. My local aerodrome at Manchester Barton affords the enthusiast an elevated vantage point on the historic control tower, which is itself a reason to visit this delightful little airfield. Barton airfield was the first municipal airport in the UK when it opened in 1930 and when its distinctive control tower was unveiled to the Manchester press and public seven years later, it was described as the country’s first air traffic control station.

This beautiful Morane Saulnier MS.317 is one of Barton’s aviation gems

As with most general aviation airfields, the majority of aircraft movements are light aircraft, small helicopters and microlights, but there is always a possibility that some aviation gems are housed in the hangars of your local airfield. Barton can boast a stunning French Navy Morane Saulnier MS.317, a Focke Wulf (Piaggio) P.149 and regular visits from Chipmunks and Tiger Moths to name but a few of the aviation highlights. Importantly, these type of aircraft also allow the photographer to practice their skills shooting at the lower shutter speeds needed to blur the movement of the propeller, whilst keeping the subject aircraft sharply in focus. This is quite a difficult skill to master, but it is far better to perfect your technique in the relatively relaxed surroundings of your local airfield, as opposed to the busy crowd line at a Duxford Airshow – you may just end up with some pleasing results and another aviation venue to visit regularly.

Britain’s International Airports

Virgin Boeing 747-443 ‘Hot Lips’ on approach to Manchester International

There is no doubting that aviation enthusiasts can be fickle beasts. Asking a military enthusiast to spend the day photographing civilian passenger jets and you will probably be met with a less than complimentary reply, but they could be missing out on a really rewarding day out. If I am being honest, I was probably guilty of being in this mind-set just a few years ago and would even allow myself to be dragged around the local retail park than stand taking pictures of people setting off on their holidays, but I am pleased to say that I am now very much in the other camp. Indeed, I would now describe my regular visits to Manchester Airport as amongst the most enjoyable photographic trips of the year and has taken me full circle with regards to my photography. As a young man armed with his very first, rather basic camera, I could catch the No.400 bus from Oldham and be at Manchester Airport in around an hour. In the days when there were much fewer restrictions for aircraft spotters, it was possible to actually walk on top of the aircraft boarding piers and get a really close view of the aircraft below, which would usually be BAC 111s, Boeing 737s and Vickers Viscounts. If you were really lucky, you might see a mighty Boeing 747 Jumbo, or even the extremely distinctive Aero Spacelines Super Guppy, which would be used to transport aircraft parts from the North West to the Airbus assembly plant at Toulouse – those definitely were the days.

The one thing that you can virtually guarantee at many of the UK’s International Airports is aircraft activity, which is rather important if you are hoping for a productive day of photography. Many airports will operate specific viewing areas for spotters and photographers, but chatting with some of the other enthusiasts around you will usually unearth a wealth of valuable local information and details on how to get to other locations around the airfield, which will yield numerous photographic opportunities. Even though the viewing areas will probably be more convenient and allow access to all the amenities you may need for an enjoyable day’s photography, a little leg work and some forward planning can produce really fantastic results. When you get completely immersed in the subject, you become much more aware of things like the position of the sun, landing direction and the best locations at specific times of the day, which can all result in you taking up a number of different positions around the airfield on any given trip. This really can be quite infectious and you soon become rather attached to these civilian airliners, which allow you to perfect your photographic skills and obtain fantastic aviation photographs all year round.


Watch the video: Morane Saulnier 317 MS 317 Full HD Meeting aérien de La ferté-Alais LFTA 2010 (January 2022).